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FALLING AWAY OR APOSTASY
Amos 8:11 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord GOD, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the LORD: 12 And they shall wander from sea to sea, and from the north even to the east, they shall run to and fro to seek the word of the LORD, and shall not find [it].

2 Timothy 4:3-4 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; 4  And they shall turn away [their] ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

2 Thessalonians 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for [that day shall not come], except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
(passage continued at page bottom)

Visit our companion site for more on "that man of sin", and the "temple of God", in which we are to expect him to "sitteth".

Here's a short audio comparison of Osteen and Washer

a falling away
Strong's: New Testament Greek Definition:
646 apostasia {ap-os-tas-ee'-ah}
feminine of the same as 647; TDNT - 1:513,88; n f
AV - to forsake + 575 1, falling away 1; 2
1) a falling away, defection, apostasy

Section links on this page include Apostasy in Europe, Religious Pluralism "Chrislam", Roman Catholics on Islam and Cults.
For those that have been given a burden for Muslims here are some tracts that can be presented to, or left around places to be discovered by, Muhammad's followers. For discussion of any of the topics covered on this website please join us in the Islam-Christian Forum at this link.
 
Apostasy in Europe (URL)

Let's start with a fairly universal understanding of the term "apostasy" or falling away, by reviewing what's going on in Europe, from Soeren Kern at the Gatestone Institute, with excerpts from his article at this link titled "Muslims Converting Empty European Churches into Mosques":

"Muslims in Europe are increasingly converting empty Christian churches into mosques.
The proliferation of mosques housed in former churches reflects the rise of Islam as the fastest growing religion in post-Christian Europe."

"As Islam replaces Christianity as the dominant religion in Europe, more and more churches are set to become mosques, which increasingly serve not only as religious institutions but also function as the foundational political building blocks for the establishment of separate, parallel Muslim communities in Europe that are based on Islamic Sharia law."

"In addition to Roman Catholic churches, some Protestant churches have also been converted into mosques in Germany, where the Muslim population has jumped from around 50,000 in the early 1980s to more than 4 million today.
In Germany as a whole, more than 400 Roman Catholic churches and more than 100 Protestant churches have been closed since 2000, according to one estimate. Another 700 Roman Catholic churches are slated to be closed over the next several years."

"Overall, at least 10,000 churches have been closed in Britain since 1960, including 8,000 Methodist churches and 1,700 Anglican churches. Another 4,000 churches are set to be closed by 2020, according to Christian Research, an organization that tracks religious trends in Britain.
By contrast, there are now more than 1,700 official mosques in Britain, many converted from former churches."

Many more insights from the other side of the pond by Soeren Kern are available at this link that can even be appreciated by agnostics or atheists, who don't welcome the prospect of their heirs being subjugated to Muhammad's followers under Islamic sharia law, any more than any other non-Muslims would.

When a Jewish newspaper has to point it out that says a lot. "Europe's Supercessionism: Islam Replaces Christianity:" "The new "replacement" is not the old anti-Semitic theory but an anti-Christian fact. As the churches disappear, it is hard not to think of how these same Christians burned Jewish synagogues."

It certainly wouldn't be the first time that God used some of His enemies, in judgment against some of His people, for losing their love of truth.

Pope Francis seems headed on a course intended to redefine Roman Catholic Church doctrine to confirm it to the world as well.
 
"That Man of Sin" (URL)

2 Thessalonians 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for [that day shall not come], except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God.....

Has "that man of sin" been revealed during this "falling away"? Where is the "temple of God" ever since Jesus raised it up in three days, just as He indicated that He could? The temple of God is the corporate body of Christ! It's the "church". For much more on this subject please visit the related page at BeholdTheBeast.com

For the purposes of this site, the following video should suffice as just one example.

 
Religious Pluralism (URL)

Few groups seem to be working harder, at building one-way bridges away from Jesus in surrender to Islam, than the group that may well be the largest that calls itself "A Common Word Between Us and You". As if there could be common ground between Christianity and the specifically antichrist, counter-gospel, hate-filled, anti-religion of Islam.


Groups like "A Common Word" will likely pose the greatest danger to free speech regarding Muhammad and his followers as revealed through Islam's own books, and advancement of the agenda of orthodox Muslims that are responsible for well over 70% of the murder, mayhem and misery being visited upon the civilized world. Of course the Muhammadans will take from the organization what they want, which is to silence the Gospel of Jesus Christ, while the Ivy League left wing University styled self-described "Christians" will need to continue to remain silent regarding the crucifixion of Christ and the saving grace of His shed blood - the whole subject of the Gospel - or confessing that Jesus is the Son of God, so as to avoid "offending" their Muslim now-masters.

Obviously the only dialogue that should be taking place, needs to be between the western styled peacenick heterodox Muslim "hypocrites" and their orthodox violent fundamental brethren in the cradle of the religion, that get Islam, like Islamic scholar Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi who heads up The Islamic State, or orthodox outsiders like British Cleric Anjem Choudary. The feigning-peace apostates rewrite the Quran and Hadith while running away from 1400 years of Islamic history, in efforts to sell their dissimulation/taqiyyah and absurd notion that Islam is a religion of peace, to Christians that have followed the Prince of Peace for 2000 years and whose Gospel needs no edit to be the very embodiment of love and roadmap to a peaceful world.

In bed with the U.N.:  "A Common Word has received numerous awards, has been the basis for many resolutions and peace initiatives, and gave birth to the UN World Interfaith Harmony Week, and much more." How long will it be before they join Hillary Clinton, and the OIC nations that impose the death penalty by State statute for the "crime" of "blasphemy", in pushing for U.N. anti-blasphemy laws?

Based on what seems to be largely Islamic membership, perhaps it should be called something more like "Muslims engaged in dissimulation and taqiyyah duping the cognitively impaired wishful".

Are the non-Muslim members of this mutual apostasy club so ignorant to Islam, as to not know there can only be one-way bridges built between Islam and anyone else, since Muhammad's followers are prohibited from even making friends of Jews and Christians:

Quran Sura 5:51: O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust.

From G.J.O. Moshay -

"In other words, any Muslim who becomes a Christian or even befriends a Christian leaves the leadership and control of Allah.

So, all Islamic leaders who come to British and American Church leaders for inter-faith co-operation are either defying the instructions of Allah or they have a hidden agenda.  The Islam of the 7th century AD is the same today, probably under new guises as the situation demands. It is the same tactic of "No compulsion in religion" that Mohammed first adapted to Christians and Jews, that Muslims are using in the Western world today."

"There are so many incitements against Christians and non-Muslims running through the pages of the Quran that we find it hard to believe that anybody can be a real practicing Muslim now or then and not hate Christians.  It is impossible.  Any Muslim who is not violent (secretly or openly) is hardly a real Muslim, at least not in  the Quranic sense." More of this quote at Behold the Beast.

Thus we find the concept of taqiyyah, or lying in the cause of "Allah", explained by Sunni Muslim theologian Abu Ha-med Mohammad ibn Mohammad al-Ghazzali of the Shafi school:

“Speaking is a means to achieve objectives. If a praiseworthy aim is attainable through both telling the truth and lying, it is unlawful to accomplish it through lying because there is no need for it. When it is possible to achieve such an aim by lying but not by telling the truth, it is permissible to lie if attaining the goal is permissible..., and obligatory to lie if the goal is obligatory. ...One should compare the bad consequences entailed by lying to those entailed by telling the truth, and if the consequences of telling the truth are more damaging, one is entitled to lie…”

An "obligatory" "goal":  "Da'wah is recognised by the majority of scholars as being obligatory upon every Muslim."
Da'wah is proselytizing for Islam, so when it is not possible to achieve this goal by telling the truth in an interfaith dialogue, Muslims are under obligation to lie while proselytizing. An example of this could be to claim there is a history of Mecca from prior to the 4th century AD when the person proselytizing knows for a fact that there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that supports that lie.


From Atlas Shrugs: "Muslims Slaughter 75 in Deadly Attack on Historic Church in Pakistan.
Relentless. Muslims murdering, persecuting, torturing Christians in Muslim countries, and the world says nothing. The same silence preceded the Nazi genocide of twelve million people.
Instead, the world advances the savages' narrative that opposition to jihad and sharia is "islamophobia." Vilified are the few who dare to speak out against this vicious anti-human system of oppression. And their dissemblers in the media and proxies in the West like CAIR, ICNA, ISNA, MSA, Aslan Media, etc., are lauded and loved.
Where are the church leaders speaking out against Muslim genocide of Christians? Busy providing cover for the annihilationists by playing patsy in the interfaith dialogue ruse." - Pamela Geller

Beyond ecumenism and even beyond religious pluralism, are "Christians" who cast their lots in with such as the "International Interfaith Council" at iicouncil.org.

Add to them the interfaith pluralist wolves in sheep's clothing heretics, that are selling out Jesus to Muhammad's antichrists through "A Common Word Between Us and You", and things would seem to be accelerating even more exponentially. Imagine suggesting a "common word" when each and every Muslim is required to deny the crucifixion of Christ and thus reject His shed blood, and deny the Son of God, as articles of their faith in the false prophet Muhammad alone. They are even taught that to confess that Jesus is the Son of God or even pray in Jesus' name, would be to commit the single most "heinous" and only unforgivable sin in Muhammad's cult.

Christian heretics that are apparently so ignorant to scripture, or are so filled with the spirit of antichrist, as to pretend there is a relationship between the one true God of the Jews and Christians named YHWH - Yahweh - as revealed through all of His prophets and witnesses, that His people have followed through two covenants for 3500 years.....

.....and the one that is worshipped in the names of the Arabian pagan's deity "Allah" and his "messenger" Muhammad, through a stand-alone 23-year 7th century record of the false prophet from the SW Arabian desert located 1200 kilometers away from THE Holy Land of the prophets and patriarchs, who came along over 500 years after the scriptures were closed and proclaimed the EXACT OPPOSITE of the WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel. His followers even prostrate themselves five times a day toward the very same black stone idol in Mecca, that the Quraish pagans venerated long before Muhammad adopted, and adapted, their pagan rituals to his new anti-religion. As an article of their faith in Muhammad alone, his followers are even obligated to travel to that black stone idol in Mecca, march around it and kiss it or point to it on each time around, while engaging in thinly veneered pagan Arabian moon, sun, star and jinn-devil worship rituals, as the Arabian pagans did on their pilgrimages before Muhammad was ever born. Much more at this link.

As Christians we are to love the followers of the false prophet Muhammad so much that we are desperate to help them find their way to the foot of the cross. Invite them into our churches to learn about the love of the one true God of the scriptures as expressed through our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To proclaim that Jesus Christ died for us all, so we don't have to die a second death from our sins. But from Radical Islam.org we find antichrist Imams are advancing Islamic blasphemy from right within the evermore pluralistic "church":

"The Muslim Public Affairs Council’s choice of location for its 12th Annual Convention on December 15 is telling: The All Saints Episcopal Church of Pasadena, California. The group, founded by Muslim Brotherhood followers, says this is the “next step in its mission by crossing the interfaith line.”
Yet again, the Islamists are taking advantage of naïve Christians with a desire to show off their tolerance.
The All Saints Episcopal Church of Pasadena started an Interfaith Study Group in 2007 with the Pasadena Jewish Temple and the Islamic Center of Southern California (ICSC), from which MPAC originated. The organization was founded as a branch of ICSC in 1986 and then became independent in 1988, though the two remain intertwined."

"The ICSC is proud of its interfaith successes. For example, the First United Methodist Church of Santa Monica is allowing the ICSC to hold Friday prayers there every week."

Front Page Magazine excerpts: "Last month, a new mosque called the ICNA (Islamic Circle of North America) Islamic Center opened in Alexandria, Virginia. ICNA, an Islamist group with origins in the Jamaat-e-Islami of Pakistan, framed its inauguration as an interfaith victory, giving thanks to the three churches that let them worship on their premises as the mosque project was completed.
The two-story mosque replaced a house that was bought by ICNA in 2000. It says the facility cost $850,000 to build and can accommodate about 150 people. Good Shepherd Catholic Church, St. Luke’s Episcopal Church and Aldersgate United Methodist Church allowed ICNA’s Northern Virginia chapter to worship as the mosque was being built.

A 1991 U.S. Muslim Brotherhood strategic memorandum, which says its “work in America is a kind of grand jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within,” lists ICNA as one of “our organizations and the organizations of our friends.” The memo refers to productive meetings between ICNA and the U.S. Muslim Brotherhood “in an attempt to reach a unity of merger.” ICNA has long held its annual conferences in conjunction with the Muslim American Society, an arm of the Muslim Brotherhood, in apparent fulfillment of this objective."

From Wikipedia on the Presbyterian Church (not all of which are partial-preterist/anti-Zionist/punitive-supersessionists, as part of this denomination are futurists)

"Ronald H. Stone, John Witherspoon Professor of Christian Ethics at Pittsburgh Theological Seminary, attracted negative media attention during the tour after being quoted as saying, "We treasure the precious words of Hezbollah and your expression of goodwill toward the American people. Also we praise your initiative for dialogue and mutual understanding. We cherish these statements that bring us closer to you. As an elder of our church, I'd like to say that according to my recent experience, relations and conversations with Islamic leaders are a lot easier than dealings and dialogue with Jewish leaders."[4]

Driven by punitive supersessionism they laud praises on an internationally recognized Islamic terrorist organization while distancing themselves from Israeli Jews. The context suggests they were likely as much fooled by Islamic terrorists taqiyyah and subterfuge, as their doctrine made them unable to face the truth, as expressed by Jewish leaders.
 
"Chrislam" (URL)

The liberal ecumenical church is increasingly given over to religious pluralism, through such as the "Chrislam" movement, that seeks to replace truth with "tolerance". As if Jesus sat down at the tables with the moneychangers and offered to help them count their change, before politely but apologetically and gently suggesting to them, that there was a possibility that their being there may perhaps not be the best thing - though the ecumenical church doesn't even seem to go that far.

Simply consider the example of the rampant blindness in the apostate institutional "church", when the Washington National Cathedral - the so-called “spiritual home for the nation” - was opened to Muslim prayer services. The foolish parties responsible perhaps not even knowing, that any structure in which Muslims pray becomes the property of Islam, or the "Ummah". An Imam even insulting Jews and Christians in the service.

"Imam insulted Christians, Jews in National Cathedral"

"He [Dr. Andrew Bostom] said the verses that Imam Ebrahim Rasool, who is South Africa’s ambassador to the U.S., read to those gathered for Friday’s “call to prayer” were familiar to Muslims but probably did not resonate with many Christians. The verses are widely interpreted by the Muslim hadiths and Quranic commentaries as stinging rebukes of Christianity and Judaism, Bostom said. The hadiths are the written reports of the teachings of Muhammad."

"Rasool quoted only the latter portion of Quran 5:82, which says 'you will find the nearest in love to the believers (Muslims) those who say: ‘We are Christians.' That is because amongst them are priests and monks, and they are not arrogant.'

But Rasool cleverly omitted the opening half of 5:82: “Verily, you will find the strongest among men in enmity to the believers (Muslims) the Jews and those who are Al-Mushrikun (i.e., ‘idolatrous’ Hindus, Buddhists and Animists).

However he seemed to not be able to resist the temptation to humiliate the useful dupes that foolishly hosted him with Quran 3:26: “Say ‘O Allah! Possessor of the kingdom, You give the kingdom to whom You will, and You take the kingdom from whom You will, and You endue with honor whom You will, and You humiliate whom You will. In Your Hand is the good. Verily, You are Able to do all things.’

"Following Rasool’s sermon, a verse from the opening chapter of the Quran, the Fatiha, was recited. It doesn’t specify Christians or Jews, but authoritative commentaries by Muslim scholars interpret it as a reference to members of the two religions.

'That verse, 1:7, is repeated by believing Muslims 17 times a day. It’s a curse on Christianity and Jews,' Bostom said. 'But it is more subtle than some of the other verses in the Quran, because it says those who have engendered Allah’s anger, the Jews, and those who’ve gone astray, the Christians, if you look back to the very first exegeses of the Quran, that’s exactly how Muslims are taught to interpret this verse, that they are following the correct path and those allegedly following the religions closest to them are wrong.'”

"So the prayer spoken over the participants in Friday’s Muslim service by Rasool reminded Muslims they are blessed while Christians and Jews are forsaken.
By citing 3:26 from the Quran, Rasool was clearly making a point about who Allah chose to humiliate, Bostom said."

Meanwhile the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.), among the leading anti-Zionist institutions, works feverishly toward advancing the Islamic conquest of Israel. From their "Israel and Palestine General Assembly Action":

"Item 12-03 calls on the General Assembly to oppose Christian Zionism and to develop a plan to communicate the theological and political ramifications it engenders to the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.), in the mass media, and among U.S. government officials."

Article: Chrislam Starts To Spread In America
From the OCRegister by Jim Hinch -

"The Rev. Rick Warren, pastor of Saddleback Church in Lake Forest and one of America's most influential Christian leaders, has embarked on an effort to heal divisions between evangelical Christians and Muslims by partnering with Southern California mosques and proposing a set of theological principles that includes acknowledging that Christians and Muslims worship the same God.

The effort, informally dubbed King's Way, caps years of outreach between Warren and Muslims. Warren has broken Ramadan fasts at a Mission Viejo mosque, met Muslim leaders abroad and addressed 8,000 Muslims at a national convention in Washington D.C.

The effort by a prominent Christian leader to bridge what polls show is a deep rift between Muslims and evangelical Christians culminated in December at a dinner at Saddleback attended by 300 Muslims and members of Saddleback's congregation.

At the dinner, Abraham Meulenberg, a Saddleback pastor in charge of interfaith outreach, and Jihad Turk, director of religious affairs at a mosque in Los Angeles, introduced King's Way as "a path to end the 1,400 years of misunderstanding between Muslims and Christians."

Have you ever read anything so absurd as a Christian characterizing 1,400 years of Islamic conquest, terrorism, murder, and subjugation of Christians and Jews to the slavery of dhimmitude, as "misunderstanding between Muslims and Christians"? Let alone that Christian's understanding that the false Muhammad's stand-alone 7th century antichrist anti-religion, professes the exact opposite of the whole subject of the Gospel, to be "1,400 years of misunderstanding"? As if Warren's 21st century pop-counter-Gospel religious pluralism somehow constitutes understanding? Perhaps not even realizing he is being drawn down a one-way street through taqiyyah, while at the same time encouraging those poor sorely deluded followers of Muhammad alone, to remain on the path they are on.

John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

Quran Surah 19:88 They say: "(Allah) Most Gracious has begotten a son!" 89 Indeed ye have put forth a thing most monstrous!

1John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. 23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father:.....

From Lighting the Way Worldwide:

"Did Rick Warren Pray to Allah in the Name of a Muslim Prophet?

Rick Warren who is one of Barak Obama's bridges to the evangelical church managed to pray an inaugural prayer that made nearly everyone happy, with the exception, that is, of the one true God to whom the prayer was supposed to be addressed. While Warren began by quoting the Hebrew Schema, and addressing the biblical God of all creation, who warned, 'You shall have no other gods before Me....for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God...' (Exodus 20:3, 5b), Warren went on to invoke the Muslim deity Allah. If that was not bad enough, Warren quoted both the Bible and the Koran, and he prayed in the names of Jesus Christ as well as the Muslim prophet Isa! I felt this perilous travesty needed to be addressed, especially since Time Magazine has dubbed Rick Warren "America's New People's Pastor," and he is influencing millions of people through his books and public persona.

Tragically, Warren's incorporation of the Islamic deity in the name of a Muslim prophet went over the heads of the vast majority of Christians who heard his inaugural prayer. While Warren's prayer may have pleased President Barack Obama, who gained countless votes by riding on Warren's back into the evangelical church, God warned us in His Word that religious syncretism would characterize the great apostasy of the last days (Revelation 17)!

While I suspected that Warren's prayer would be as inclusive as possible, even I was surprised when Warren actually quoted the Koran and used the oft-repeated Koranic formulation for Allah i.e., 'The compassionate and merciful one.' In fact, of the 114 chapters in the Koran, 113 of them begin by describing Allah as 'The compassionate and merciful one.'"

The etymology of the name "Allah" suggesting it was the proper name of the Arabian pagan's moon god. It will NEVER be the name of the one true God of the scriputures YHWH as it occurs nearly 7,000 times in scripture and in paleo-Hebrew inscription that dates to the 9th century AD.

As if we worship the same God when Muslims prostrate themselves toward the Quraish pagan's black stone idol in Mecca, while praying in the "vain repetitions of the heathen", in the names of the Arabian pagan's deity "Allah" and his "messenger" Muhammad. Muslims being taught they would commit the most egregious and only unforgivable sin of "shirk", if they were to confess that Jesus is the Son of God, or even pray in Jesus' name.

1John 4:15 Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.

Continuing from the first Chrislam article: "'I don't know if you have noticed this, but God likes variety,' Warren told an audience of 8,000 Muslims at a Washington, D.C. convention in 2009"

"'He calls me his Muslim brother,' Barakat said. 'It all started with a friendship.'"

Is Rick Warren not aware that true Muslims aren't allowed to make friends with Christians and Jews, except to create the appearance thereof for an advantage toward dawah (proselytizing), by engaging in "taqiyyah" or Islamic subterfuge?

Rick Warren presents historic “King’s Way” interfaith document
Finally, a look at the King’s Way document that sparked the Chrislam questions (defending Jim Hench's article from Warren's criticism)
John Piper, Rick Warren & Forther-Willardism

Can we suppose Christians will be invited into mosques to witness to Muslims on the crucifixion and shed blood of the Lamb of God to our "Muslim brothers"? That is, the whole subject of the Gospel, and indeed of the whole bible and after all, what we are commissioned to do.

1Cr 1:23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;

Surah 4:157 That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-

Video and large font text version on friendship in Islam.

American Churches To Embrace Chrislam On June 26, 2011 (article includes a list of churches)

"The following is taken directly from the Faith Shared website:

“Faith Shared asks houses of worship across the country to organize events involving clergy reading from each other’s sacred texts. An example would be a Christian Minister, Jewish Rabbi and Muslim Imam participating in a worship service or other event.

Suggested readings will be provided from the Torah, the Gospels, and the Qur’an, but communities are encouraged to choose readings that will resonate with their congregations. Involvement of members from the Muslim community is key.

We will also provide suggestions on how to incorporate this program into your regular worship services. And we will assist local congregations in their media and communications efforts."

"Tensions around Islam in America have erupted throughout the country in the past year, leading to misconceptions, distrust and in some cases violence. News stories on the rising tide of anti-Muslim bigotry and violence abound, with graphic and often searing images of the antagonists, the protagonists and the battlegrounds where they meet. All too often, media coverage simplistically pits Muslims against would-be Qur’an burners, neglecting any substantive representation of where the majority of Americans actually stand: a shared commitment to tolerance and freedom. We are committed to ensuring that the storyline changes dramatically in 2011 by helping to create an environment of mutual understanding and respect for each other’s faith traditions.” source – Faith Shared"

Typical liberal liars continue to persist in painting Christians - that are at least Christian enough to recognize the 1400 year reign of antichrist Islamic evil and murder of God's people and that Muhammad proclaimed the exact opposite of the whole subject of the Gospel - as harboring "anti-Muslim bigotry". However it is always in fact solely about being against Muhammad's blasphemy and not about being anti-Muslim, though liberal liars always try to pretend that being against the anti-religion of Islam, is being against persons or hating Muslims. While seeking to help them overcome the false prophet Muhammad, is specifically and expression of Christian love, for those so sorely deluded.

With over 20,000 deadly Islamic terror attacks around the world just since 9-11, during this Second Islamic Jihad in the image of the First Islamic Jihad conquest of nearly the whole known world, one would think even Warren would get the hint. That imperialistic conquest, murder and mayhem being perfectly consistent, with what Islam's books command of Muhammad's true followers, as well as describing Muhammad's own behavior. Those who would deny this in favor of false hope are peddling the only "storyline"! See the list of participating churches at that site here. There's little doubt that most of those churches are partial preterist and punitive supersessionist.

Do you suppose those Imams will be "sharing" such verses as the following marching orders from the Quran and Hadith? From one of the most consummate and self-admitted terrorists in history:

Sura 8:12 I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them

Sura 33:26 "Allah took down the People of the Scripture Book. He cast terror into their hearts. Some you slew, and some you made prisoners. And He made you heirs of their lands, their houses, and their goods, giving you a land which you had not traversed before. And Allah has power over all things."

Surah 9.29 Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. 30 The Jews call 'Uzair a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; (in this) they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth!


John 16:2 They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service.

Quran Sura 9.111 Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Qur'an: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah. then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme.

Bukhari, V1 B2 #24 Narrated Ibn 'Umar: Allah's Apostle said: "I have been ordered (by Allah) to fight against the people until they testify that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that Muhammad is Allah's Apostle, and offer the prayers perfectly and give the obligatory charity, so if they perform a that, then they save their lives an property from me except for Islamic laws and then their reckoning (accounts) will be done by Allah."

"Summarized Sahih Al-Bukhari" page 580

Chapter 2. The best among the people is that believer who strives his utmost in Allah's Cause with both his life and property.

footnotes:

[1] "Al-Jihad (the holy fighting) in Allah's Cause (with full force of number and weaponry) is given the utmost importance in Islam and is one of its pillars (on which it stands). By Jihad Islam is established, Allah's Word is made superior, [His Word being La ilaha ill-Allah (which means: none has the right to be worshipped by Allah] and His Religion (Islam) is propagated. By abandoning Jihad (may Allah protect us from that) Islam is destroyed and the Muslims fall into an inferior position; there honour is lost, their lands are stolen, their rule and authority vanish. Jihad is an obligatory duty in Islam on every Muslim, and he who tries to escape from this duty, or does not in his innermost heart wish to fulfill this duty, dies with one of the qualities of a hypocrite.

[2] Of course, nobody can offer Salat )prayer_ and observe Saum )fast) incessantly, and since the Muslim fighter is rewarded as if he was doing subh good impossible deeds, no possible deed equals Jihad in reward.

More on Islamic Jihad at Brother Pete and Behold the Beast
On Muhammad's mass murder of the Banu Qurayza and beheading of innocent Jewish farm boys.

 
 
The Roman Catholic Church on Islam (URL)
From the New Advent site:

Declaration on the Relation of the Church to Non-Christian Religions
The Second Vatican Council
Promulgated by His Holiness Pope Paul VI
October 28, 1965
Paul, Bishop, Servant of the Servants of God, together with the Fathers of the Sacred Council. For Everlasting Memory.

"3. The Church regards with esteem also the Moslems. They adore the one God, living and subsisting in Himself, merciful and all-powerful, the Creator of heaven and earth (5), who has spoken to men; they take pains to submit wholeheartedly to even His inscrutable decrees, just as Abraham, with whom the faith of Islam takes great pleasure in linking itself, submitted to God. Though they do not acknowledge Jesus as God, they revere Him as a prophet. They also honor Mary, His virgin mother; at times they even call on her with devotion. In addition, they await the day of judgement when God will render their deserts to all those who have been raised up from the dead. Finally, they value the moral life and worship God especially through prayer, almsgiving and fasting.

Since in the course of centuries not a few quarrels and hostilities have arisen between Christians and Moslems, this Sacred Synod urges all to forget the past and to work sincerely for mutual understanding and to preserve as well as to promote together for the benefit of all mankind social justice and moral welfare, as well as peace and freedom."

It seems the Roman Church fell into the common error of believing that simply because Muhammad's followers proclaim they "believe in Jesus", that somehow means that they do, even though Muhammad proclaimed the exact opposite of the whole subject of the Gospel. Thus 1.5 billion people in the world today, must reject the shed blood of the Lamb of God, as an article of their faith in Muhammad alone. Are Roman Catholics to imagine that the Pope and Vatican Council were somehow just ignorant to that fact when assembling "infallible" doctrine?

Let's consider their statement part by part, since what the Pope and Vatican Council proclaim, are what Roman Catholics are compelled to believe.

"3. The Church regards with esteem also the Moslems. They adore the one God,....."

Muhammad's followers worship in the names of a pagan Arabian deity "Allah" and his "messenger" Muhammad. The name of the "one God" is YHWH as occurs nearly 7,000 times in scripture and in pale-Hebrew inscription discovered that date as early as the 9th century BC. That is the name of the God of the scriptures, regardless of the name that misguided Arabic speaking Christians and Jews assign Him. Indeed the Arabic language didn't even exist until a few centuries into the Christian era. Additionally, a Muslim would be committing the only unforgivable sin according to Muhammad, if he were to even pray in Jesus name.

".....living and subsisting in Himself; merciful and all- powerful, the Creator of heaven and earth,(5) who has spoken to men;....."

Indeed He has, so let's hear Him:

Matthew 3:17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son , in whom I am well pleased.
Mark 1:11 And there came a voice from heaven, [saying], Thou art my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
Luke 3:22 ...and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.      
2Peter 1:17 For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

Muhammad always the direct opposite: Sura 19:88 They say: "(Allah) Most Gracious has begotten a son!" 89 Indeed ye have put forth a thing most monstrous!

"........ they take pains to submit wholeheartedly to even His inscrutable decrees,......"

Perhaps by prostrating toward the Quraish pagan's black stone idol in Mecca five times a day? Let alone Muhammad ordering up his "Allah's" curse on God's people, like some sort of a voodoo incantation, for being "deluded away from the Truth.

Surah 9.30 The Jews call 'Uzair a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; (in this) they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth!

1John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. 23  Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: .....

"..... just as Abraham, with whom the faith of Islam takes pleasure in linking itself, submitted to God."

Abraham smashed all of his father's idols while Mohammedans venerate the Quraish pagan's black stone idol. They are unwittingly "submitted" to Satan through the spirit of antichrist. The only anti-a-specific-religion, cult on earth. Recitations conspicuously co-authored by the jealous opposer of Jesus Christ, who transformed himself into an angel of light, to his "messenger" Mohammed.

2Corinthians 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

Muhammad didn't even don the "sheep's clothing" but came conquereing as a "ravening wolf".

Matthew 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

Even without the sheep's clothing he apparently still fooled the Roman Church.....

Mark 13:22 For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if [it were] possible, even the elect.

.....but there are some of us that Mohammed didn't fool. Indeed even Mohammed believed it was a jinn-demon that first met him in that cave, until his wife Khadijah and her cousin talked him out of it. Here's a video of Coptic priest Zakaria Botrous on this subject.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpsWnbApBNw

"Though they do not acknowledge Jesus as God,....."

They deny the deity of Christ along with denying His crucifixion, death and resurrection, while denying that Jesus is the Son of God. But hey, why trifle in minor details eigh?
Again, the most egregious and only unforgivable sin according to Muhammad ("shirk"), would be committed if a Muslim were to confess that Jesus is the Son of God, or even to pray in Jesus' name. A sin worse than child rape or cold blooded mass murder.

1John 4:15 Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.

1John 5:12 He that hath the Son hath life; [and] he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.

"...... they revere Him as a prophet."

Which is another exactly opposite delusion they suffer because they must reject Jesus prophecies of his own crucifixion,death and resurrection, to follow Muhammad alone. Rejecting the very blood of the Lamb of God that would save them:
http://www.islamandthetruth.com/the_lamb_slain.htm

Matthew 20:17 And Jesus going up to Jerusalem took the twelve disciples apart in the way, and said unto them, 18 Behold, we go up to Jerusalem; and the Son of man shall be betrayed unto the chief priests and unto the scribes, and they shall condemn him to death, 19 And shall deliver him to the Gentiles to mock, and to scourge, and to crucify [him]: and the third day he shall rise again.

Surah 4:157 That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-

Hebrews 10:29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?

"They also honor Mary, His virgin Mother; at times they even call on her with devotion."

Muslims even join the Roman Catholics in the veneration of Mary at Our Lady of Fatima. Roman Catholic Mariology arriving through a series of invention and proclamation, with some declared dogma as recently as 1950.
http://www.brotherpete.com/index.php?topic=16.0

"In addition, they await the day of judgment when God will render their deserts to all those who have been raised up from the dead."

Are the antichrists who follow the false prophet Mohammed awaiting "that blessed hope" of Christians, or a very different day?

Titus 2:13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;

Bukhari B34, Hadith #425: Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle said, "By Him in Whose Hands my soul is, son of Mary (Jesus) will shortly descend amongst you people (Muslims) as a just ruler and will break the cross and kill the pig and abolish the Jizya (a tax taken from the non-Muslims, who are in the protection, of the Muslim government). Then there will be abundance of money and no-body will accept charitable gifts.

Those poor deluded souls encouraged to remain on Muhammad's antichrist, anti-Gospel, anti-Christian and anti-Jew path, in part thanks to the Pope and Vatican Council.

John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

Revelation 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet [are], and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

"Finally, they value the moral life and worship God especially through prayer,...."

From "Infidel" Hirsi Ali explains part of "salat", "You say Praise be to Allah thirty-three times; God forgive me thirty-three times; Allah is great thirty-three times; and then, if you choose, you may also say Gratitude to Allah." Muslims are commanded to perform salat fives times a day, totaling 495 repetitions per day. Muhammad lifted the five required occurrences from the 2nd century occult cult of the Sabians.

Here's how scripture describes such prayer:

Matthew 6:7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen [do]: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.  

"..... almsgiving ......"

Generally benefiting only the Muslim community. Where was even a little bit of the trillions of dollars of oil wealth of Islamic countries, coming to the aid of even the Muslim tsunami victims of Indonesia, that has the highest Muslim population of any country on earth including 88% of Indonesians?

"..... and fasting."

Essentially skipping lunch for a month, which only helps to add to their self-delusion of self-righteousness. Indeed Muslims spend more on food during the month of Ramadan in which they "fast", then they do in any other month of the year, from feasting on extra special fare before dawn and after sunset. Many actually gain weight during the month they "fast". Besides which, Ramadan itself, is another ritual that was lifted from pagan moon worshippers.

"Since in the course of centuries not a few quarrels and hostilities have arisen between Christians and Moslems,....."

Certainly Muslims conquered Christians and nearly the whole known world, during the First Islamic Jihad, and subjugated Jews and Christians to a state of Dhimmitude. The "Christian" to Islam "hostilities" were between the Roman Catholic Church and the Moslems. But then the Roman church also slaughtered Jews and Christians.

John 13:35 By this shall all [men] know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.

Galatians 5:14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, [even] in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Matthew 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

The Crusades, inquisitions and persecution and slaughter of Muslims, Jews and Christians, were akin to the 1400 year history of murder, rape, pillage and plunder of Islamic jihad. With over 20,000 deadly Islamic terror attacks, around the world, just since 9-11. No surprise that Moslems (and agnostics as well) have a difficult time discerning a difference between historical Roman Church style "Christianity" and Islam. Fox's Book of the Martyrs and Martyr's Mirror are available free online.

"...... this sacred synod urges all to forget the past ...."

I'm sure the Roman Church would like everyone to forget its past, but to urge folks to forget such a thing is akin to urging folks to forget the holocaust, and to forget such things is to condemn mankind to repeating such evil rather than learn from it.

"..... and to work sincerely for mutual understanding ....."

Mutual understanding in regard to our respective beliefs is impossible for a Christian, because Mohammed was as opposite to Jesus Christ, as his antichrist recitations are the opposite of the Gospel. Mutual understanding is impossible for those that are commanded to conquer and subjugate all people on earth to Muhammad's followers.

Quran Sura 9.111 Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Qur'an: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah. then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme.

Of course a lie regarding the Gospel, but fighting and slaying non-Muslims is "a promise binding" on all true, male, followers of Muhammad, in the Quran.

Qur'an 33:26 Allah took down the People of the Scripture Book. He cast terror into their hearts. Some you slew, and some you made prisoners. And He made you heirs of their lands, their houses, and their goods, giving you a land which you had not traversed before. And Allah has power over all things.

Tabari VIII:35/Ishaq:464 The Jews were made to come down, and Allah's Messenger imprisoned them. Then the Prophet went out into the marketplace of Medina (it is still its marketplace today), and he had trenches dug in it. He sent for the Jewish men and had them beheaded in those trenches. They were brought out to him in batches. They numbered 800 to 900 boys and men.

Bukhari:V5B59N459 I entered the Mosque, saw Abu, sat beside him and asked about sex. Abu Said said, "We went out with Allah's Apostle and we received female slaves from among the captives. We desired women and we loved to do coitus interruptus."

The difference between a Christian martyr and so-called Muslim martyr being that the Christian martyr says "I will die for what I believe in." while the Muslim so-called martyr that dies inadvertently during an act of imperialistic aggression says "You will die for what I believe in."
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/islam_the_opposite.htm

Perhaps the Pope and Vatican Council feel more of a kinship to Islam because of their mutual persecution of Jews that results from replacement theology, or "punitive supersessionism".

Sahih Bukhari B52 #177 Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle said, "the Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! there is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."

"...... and to preserve as well as to promote together for the benefit of all mankind social justice and moral welfare, as well as peace and freedom."

Freedom, liberty, self-determination, democracy and self-rule are the very antithesis of Islam, and Islamic Sharia Law. "Peace" in Islam can only be defined as a 100% Islamic state, or the "dar al Salaam" (house of peace). If you are a non-Muslim you are in the "dar al Harb" (house of war) and though you may not be at war against Islam, Islam has been at war against you for 1400 years. Islam can only survive in an oppressive, dictatorial, totalitarian state. "Social justice" is female childhood genital mutilation, chopping hands off of thieves and beheading Islamic "apostates" for coming to Christ. Locking wives in houses all day and divorcing wives by text messaging "I divorce you" three times. "Moral welfare" demonstrated in parents murdering their own children for coming to Christ, or for being a victim of rape, to preserve the family's "honor". Women having the voice of one-half that of a man in court, and receiving the same allocation of inheritance, compared to male siblings. Moral like sharia law: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fbXvq_ZIbw
And "honoring women": http://www.beholdthebeast.com/women_in_islam.htm

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Sura 112:1-3: Say: He is Allah, the One and Only; 2 Allah, the Eternal, Absolute; 3 He begetteth not, nor is He begotten;

What the Pope and Vatican Council have done is encourage Muhammad's followers to continue on their antichrist path. Below is a photo of the Pope kissing the blasphemous Quran.


1Corinthians 11:4 Every man praying or prophesying, having [his] head covered, dishonoureth his head.

How many millions of Muslims might have overcome Muhammad, if instead of cowering in cowardly submission to Muhammad's followers, the Pope had taken advantage of his bully pulpit to announce to the world that Muhammad proclaimed the exact opposite of the whole subject of the Gospel? If he had stood up for Jesus instead. Could it have ignited a global dialogue, and perhaps even a heated debate between Islamic leaders and their followers, and ultimately resulted in the collapse of Islam? But that would be underestimating the power of the spirit of antichrist, and also be contrary to any prophesies regarding the false prophet Muhammad and his Islamic kingdom "beast" as the final foe of God's people, let alone contrary to this prophesied apostasy as revealed only in small part on this page.

Meanwhile rather than sitting around a campfire singing kumbaya while deceptively pretending that the scriptures sanction THE false prophet Muhammad - that came along 500 years after the scriptures were closed - through our websites we intend to continue to do everything in our power, to continue to help guide Muhammad's sorely deluded followers to the foot of the cross.

1Corinthians 1:23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;

For discussion of the Papal and Second Vatican Council decree please visit this forum thread.
Perhaps the blindness of the Pope and Vatican Council is because the Roman Church shares so many parallels with Islam as reviewed on this Internet page.
 
(URL) 2 Thessalonians 2:5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? 6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. 7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth [will let], until he be taken out of the way. 8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: 9 [Even him], whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
 
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It isn't like we weren't warned: 2 Timothy 4:3-4 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; 4  And they shall turn away [their] ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

The 19th century brought us:

Mary Baker Eddy - Christian Science (recovery)
Joseph Smith - LDS Mormon (recovery)
Charles Taze Russell - Jehovah's Witness (recovery)
William Miller - Millerites origins of SDA
Ellen White - SDA Seventh Day Adventists (recovery)
Edward Irving - Irvingites
United and Oneness Pentecostal Church - several individuals 19th & 20th century (recovery) (Please read "Demons in the Church" by Ellis H. Skolfield available free at this link)
John Nelson Darby - dispensationalism futurism - Darby from Irving, 20th century church via C.I. Scofield - (Dr. Harry Ironside on futurism)
Dr. John Thomas - Christadelphians (recovery)
Hegel - Fichte - Maurice - Idealism school of eschatology (secularized by Karl Marx) (pdf)
Madame Blavatsky - Theosophical Society - satanist acquaintence of Westcott and Hort
Westcott and Hort - These two men penned a minority Greek text that is the basis of the majority of modern bible versions. Hermes Club, Ghostly Guild
Pope Pius IX - 1854 dogma of the "immaculate conception" (former) (Ex) (scandals)

Certainly not limited to the 19th century.

Constantine - 3rd-4th century - Roman church - For those in the bondage of the Roman church it is essential that husbands and fathers understand the 13th century dogma of auricular confession. (former) (Ex) (scandals)

Ribera - 16th century - futurist doctrine creator and seed for Darby's doctrine
Alcazar - 17th century - preterist doctrine - Roman Catholic Jesuit credited with a counter-reformation eschatology and the advent of preterism in the modern church
Jean de Labadie - 17th century - millennial reign
Manuel de Lacunza - 18th century - middle man between Ribera and Darby who Darby credited, (more)

Some suggest that the Roman Church held a preterist view historically, but if that were the case then why would Jesuit Alcazar have needed to pen his 17th century counter-reformation invention, just a few decades after Jesuit Ribera penned his futurist counter-reformation eschatology?